So SH and the Izaya-centric novels will end eventually, we all know this. But what happens when we run out of content? When there are no more cross-overs, video games, magazines, etc. What exactly happens with the Wiki once you've run out of content? Is it archived?
I know this is strange, but it's a idle question we're throwing around on the Discord. We're aware that there are always small things you can do, like re-writing pages, updating the theme, etc. But there will eventually come a point when there's nothing more to update but the theme and maybe some CSS.
Archiving a wiki wouldn't make sense, and it would go against the fundamental idea that wikis are user-maintained online encyclopedias. Online encyclopedias thrive on the basis that as online encyclopedias they can be edited/updated all the time, in real time.
I honestly don't believe it's possible for a wiki to run out of "to-dos." I've said this to you before, but I believe there's always something that needs doing on a wiki. Let's say that as of right this second all things Durarara!! come to an end: there will never be any more light novels, no anime, games, albums, manga - no new media of any kind whatsoever. Narita will never write for it again.
The amount of work the Drrr!! wiki still needs doing after this revelation is, let's face it, a lot. There are SH character pages missing a lot of info; there are original series characters lacking detailed info in their chronology sections. A lot of the character pages could benefit from rewrites. The arc overview pages need rewrites. Heck, go through the entire wiki and see what needs to be rewritten. Then there are all the chapters of the light novels and manga that don't have individual pages - what about them? Those alone could take forever. A lot of the episode pages have way too many screenshots cluttering the text and screwing with the formatting. How are their trivia sections doing?
And then there's the nitty-gritty wiki stuff: standardizing all image names; methodically categorizing all images; making sure all images are of high quality and copyrighted; fixing double and broken redirects (heck, why not update all redirects?); dealing with dead-end and orphaned pages and more. Hell, what about implementing a references system, making it so that the majority of pages have sources? Now that would be a sign of a good wiki. It would also take ages.
Meanwhile, don't forget that FANDOM itself is changing, all the time, and that its changes affect wikis and those wikis inevitably have to adapt to those changes somehow. Header modernization, Discussions, autoplay videos... They're too big for a wiki to ignore sans effect.
Archiving a wiki goes against the point of it being an online encyclopedia. It just wouldn't happen.
I think the point is being missed. I don't mean right after the content dries up, I mean years from now when everything has been added. There's no missing information, all the pages have been cleaned up, everything has been organized and organized again. I've never seen a Wiki like this go dry, so I don't know what fandom does. The idea that they archive it, doesn't mean that they lock it to future additions and take it offline, it's that they mark it as a non-active information source. The thought is that it could of course become active again, but otherwise, Fandom takes control and maintains it from vandals or perhaps locks many pages to prevent problems. Whether anybody believes it or not, you can run out of things to do. After a few years with no new content, you can only make up so many tasks.
I did get the idea, it's just that I've never heard of such a thing [archiving a wiki] happening. Archiving an online encyclopedia...maybe it's theoretically possible, but it's difficult for me to imagine it happening on principle, I guess.
It's difficult for me to imagine as well, but there has to be Wiki's out there which used to be popular or active, but are now ghost towns. I just wonder if Fandom has a process for Wiki's like that, or if it's the same as a Wiki being abandoned.
There would be a time in the future when there is, realistically, nothing more to add. If there is no content to add and no one is watching edits, it could easily fill with vandalism and spam. Then the legacy of the work that was done is for nothing.
I recall one being "locked" a long time ago, I believe it was for a game, and then no more edits were allowed.
Wikis can be set to not allow IP edits in the control panel, but locking would require the staff, and even then, someone in the future could ask to have it reopened...
So then, the hope would be that the last remaining admin would lock the Wiki from IP edits before vanishing into the night. Following that, registered users could certainly vandalize the place, but also, fandom could allow someone to adopt it and clean it up before leaving it to sit again.
Really, it's depressing to think about! Haha years of work just down the drain, but then again... Hopefully the Wiki stands and maintains its accuracy for as long as possible. I don't plan to go anywhere anytime soon, though I've found a new fandom, Durarara is still running. For now, we only have to discuss this in future terms, at least...
Using a bot for something like that makes sense as it is repetitive work; I get it, but there's a reason we're calling you out on this. For one: you didn't mention with any of us about using it. Two: you have it with your profile, not a separate profile specifically for the bot.
We can see how many edits per minute that bot was making, and that had to have been slowing down the server. I see it was doing 15 edits per minute. You didn't run through with us on anything about what it will do, and you certainly didn't get the community's approval on it. Not only did you not have a separate profile for just the bot, you did not flag it as a bot. This is part of Fandom guidelines for bots.
As ChromeCircus mentioned, please migrate the bot to a bot profile. Let us know before so we can actually set an editing rate and we can approve it, rather than just us seeing an overlow of bot edits in the recent activity log unaware.
Would you be willing to give me Bureaucrat rights? It's not as though I intend to swipe the Wiki out from under you, it's that you don't seem to have anything more to contribute, or any interest left. I've voluntarily given up Wiki's before to my admin's who had more to contribute than I did, though, my concern here is more that you'll just stop appearing and responding to messages. I have the ability to make important changes right now, but I can't appoint new mods or admins if I need to. Adopting Wiki's is a long process that I rather just avoid if possible.
Shiki isn't really active anymore, I had planned to make SparklingLimeade the mod since she's active and contributes.
My other plan was to re-do the header and background image. I also have a few projects in mind to make the Wiki more informative without making it messy.
At this point in time, no. I simply don't have the time to add anything that isn't already being done by someone else at a faster pace. I've been on Wikia for 10 years and have seen many people come and go, I'm not the one who is going disappear.
Adding rights to other users is usually done out of necessity, is there a need for another moderator,rollback or admin? Also people shouldn't just be given rights they need to be ask if they want to take responsibility for using them.
There is a mess that was just created regarding categories. There should be no images in the media category it should only contain other categories. similarly with the images category, it should only contain other image categories.
Several of the contributors and I have been talking, and it's a general concern of ours that you lack presence on the Wiki. All of your limited activity goes toward responding to messages and rolling back edits without explanation, neither of which are helping the Wiki grow. We need a platform for discussion on this Wiki rather than you outright saying 'no' to things. I'm not talking about my request for Bureaucrat rights, I'm talking in general. It's known that you'll undo edits without explaining what specifically is wrong with them. We have message walls so we can communicate, but you show no interest in communicating.
As the Wiki relies very heavily on the contributors to run and to manage accurate and up-to-date information, the contributors would be more motivated to work on the Wiki if you would work with us. There is general clean-up that we could always use help with. We could also use a guideline for the categories page, the deletion of unused or multiple images, help formatting the portable infoboxes, and a number of other things you could do that doesn’t require knowledge of the manga, light novels, sequel novels, spinoff series, video games, or contact with the fandom translators.
Part of my message expressed an interest in updating the look of the Wiki. This is something I'd really like to do as the colors selected for the header are very dull, and the background is a stock theme. I know HTML and CSS; I can edit the Wiki with some time. I'd like to change the header and apply a gradient. However, my plan was to present the images I'd chosen as possibilities, and let everyone decide what they liked best. At the same time, I wanted to work out a time when both you and I could be online so we could agree on how the Wiki looks. I've already provided my Discord name to Revriley on my wall. Feel free to add me if you'd like to work with us.
I'm sure you've noticed that there's been consistent vandalism by a spoofed IP address, it's always different so I usually don't bother banning them. I emailed Fandom to see if we could get a MAC ban on the person, but they replied that they weren't able to fulfill MAC bans and asked that we adjust our settings to only allow logged in users for a bit. I think this would help slow them down if they had to make a new account each and every time, I also planned to give a short protection to a few characters they like to vanadlize the most to further discourage any returns. Is this something you're open to?
We're currently down to just you as an admin, and since you seem to operate on an opposite time-zone to myself, I was hoping you'd consider granting me admin rights. I'm still pretty obsessed with the series, and it would really help the Wiki out to have an extra person around to handle trolls as they come in waves (sometimes for hours at a time). I've been on the Wiki for a few years, I've made a lot of helpful and consistent edits. The Wiki could really benefit from having an active admin to look to. Please consider it and let me know what you think.
For what it's worth, I've been keeping an eye on the Durarara!! wiki given that I'm the only admin of the Baccano! wiki (so, you know, Naritaverse wikis stick together? or so I'd like to think), done one or two edits here, and I think Chrome would be a great admin from what I've seen. From what I remember, I was honestly surprised that Chrome wasn't an admin already the first couple of times I poked around the site and saw their username popping up everywhere, from edit corrections to helping out users, generally showing a clear interest in both Drrr!! and the wiki itself.
Dunno if my opinion counts for much on this, but I figured it wouldn't hurt to show my support on this one.
And yes, I recall. Fortunately, I adopted a Wiki about a year ago, so I have admin and bureaucrat rights there. Just enough time for me to figure out how to do things properly, or how to undo them at the very least. There's nothing much to be deleted here at least.
I'm at work so forgive any typos. But it appears another Wiki community has copied our Wiki from the source code. I realize this is a wiki terms violation, but I wanted to get your opinion before reporting them.