Hey Chrome, the community has been struggling to communicate with Mr. Waddle Dee and to deal with the bad edits they make. Of the eleven messages posted to his wall in the past two months, five have been ignored and the same mistakes continue to be made. The things we have addressed that he continues to do include
Making one-sentence edits to plot sections when there are paragraphs of information to add, and he will revisit and edit these pages one sentence at a time for several days
Skipping far ahead in the story when adding to plot sections, leaving out context and intermediate events
Adding the Story Impact section to arc pages and Special Abilities section to character pages after discussion about why this wiki doesn't use those sections
Adding incorrect information that we need to fact-check and correct
Creating new pages without filling them in
Adding categories that don't make sense, including "content" and adding objects to "antagonists"
We'd like to be able to communicate with and encourage new editors, but it's difficult to do when they refuse advice and discussion - either in the chat or on their own message wall. By having to check every edit they make and correct many of them, Mr. Waddle Dee has been making more work for us.
I understand how frustrating this is, especially when you're unable to communicate with each other. However, I'm going to give Mr. Waddle Dee three days (from today) to respond to this before taking any action. Since the issue is with communication, it would be best if we could resolve this through communication rather than sysop action. ☆
It's not an issue with your writing. It's the content and number of your edits. If you would take note of our complaints and suggestions, we wouldn't have to leave repetitive messages on your wall. It's really helpful that you want to add to the plot summaries, but don't edit a summary section sentence-by-sentence and make multiple successive edits to a page within a few hours. Don't include plot details without context by writing for an event that happened later when there is no text to tie it in to the rest of the summary. Don't add sections to pages that we don't use on this wiki. Check your sources before you post. Those are all honest mistakes for first-time editors, but we've reached out to you and they continue to happen. Cleaning up has been troublesome.
We had talked briefly about adding a Creator category, and we have a page for Narita floating around here. I'd like to make pages for Yasuda and other artists and authors of Durarara-related works, and for that we'd need a creator infobox. If you think it's worth it and have the time to make one, I compared the contents of similar templates elsewhere and have this in mind:
DuraLove is hard because that's an anthology series, so a work with multiple artists/authors. However, I believe I used a book template on that and included all the artists I could find? I'll have to scan the credit page and ask Kaede to translate the other names. Though, that series will likely never have chapter pages since it's really not 'canon'? Much like the YZQ crossover series. It's a tough call there.
So I'd say the author section isn't necessary, the illustrator section though... The Re: Dollars manga is a new illustrator, so that would be useful. Same author I believe though.
A character debut section sounds great as long as we're only using it to list new characters. It could quickly become congested if we begin using it to list first appearances of recurring characters.
I've never made a collapasable section for an infobox, but WikiText usually isn't too tough. I'll figure it out. I'm off of work now, I'm going to take care of some work things then I'll get started on this. Thanks for the suggestion! :)
If we add an illustrator section, I think the author section should be there too. The author is just as important as the illustrator, and Minidura and YxD have different authors than Drrr. I understand what you're saying about DuraLove; there are several authors in the volume infoboxes already, and if we get more info, adding a table to the volume pages could be enough.
I am aware of where they differ, we have marked differences. Read his full page and the the corresponding light novel pages. Also, please take care to speak with respect to all wiki contributors, admins included.
The word was already 'friendship' when i edited the page. You might just be seeing the entire sentence highlighted signifying a change. That's because i moved the sentence down a space, not because i changed the word. If you see something else, i don't know why.
On a lighter note, I saw your recent update to Community Messages which included a to-do on adding tabbers for both the Japanese and English novel and manga covers. For the main series I remember I replaced the Japanese light novel covers 7-13 with higher-quality versions, but never uploaded the Japanese covers for light novels 1-6 since their respective pages used/use the English covers at the time.
Should I take the new community message as a signal to upload the Japanese #1-6 main series covers?
So I don't have internet right now, so I'm typing this from my phone. Om not sure how the formatting will hold up.
But if you have high quality images that would be greatly appreciated! Otherwise I plan to make an attempt once I get my net working again/solve the odd issue.
Righto, I've uploaded good quality 1-6 JP covers (see Special: Images later) and I do believe that I have finally found versions of the released Drrr!! official English translations that are of higher quality than the ones currently used on the wiki - so I can replace the English covers with my copies, mayhaps. The first few English ones are not equal quality with the JP covers, but they're definitely still improvements (the file quality of the EN ones I've found have another quality increase around LN5 onward, with 1-4 still improvements on the current wiki ones).
What's the plan for implementing tabbers, then? tabber /tabber style, or tabber gallery style?
Update: I've replaced English covers 1-6 (and uploaded #7) and have tested tabber on Durarara!! Light Novel Volume 01 (feel free to revert tabber test if you want). Note that the tabs are not centered. Are you using Europa infoboxes or...?
Izaya's page and a handful of others have tabbers. Unfortunately,I'm very limited on what I can do from my phone, but the coding for the tabbers should carry over the same way onto Book templates. I also cant get a good look at the tabber test from my phone so let me see if SparklingLimeade can shoot me a screenshot real fast. Do you use Discord by chance? I run a Durarara!! Discord that some of the editors are on, I can shoot you an invite or give you my Discord name.
I have a screenshot; I can upload it here or on imgur...or, actually, I do use Discord. I can send it to you via Discord if you'd prefer. I think the tabbers are doing the same thing as the character infoboxes are (orienting the tabs on left); it's just more noticable on the book infobox since it only uses two tabs whereas the character ones have multiple tabs.
Either way works for me, for some reason my Discord works fine. But I'm Chrome#0354 on Discord. Or you can use this link and join the Drrr server. It's a one use or it expires so I feel it's safe to link here.
But I believe I can center the tabbers with some code. If you can send me the code on discord or here, I'll see if I can write a fix.
I shared the screenshot over on the Discord server, but I guess I'll share it here as well just in case. Judging from the visuals of the character infoboxes I assume you're using Europa (but I'm not 100%) which I think is why the tabs are oriented left (the Vamp! and Etsusa Bridge wikis have Europa enabled...which I should...change and tabs in infoboxes there are also irritatingly oriented left).
Edit: I'll send the code via Discord in a private message, since I'm not sure if any of the server channels I can access would be appropriate for it.
Saw your edit summary for Byakuyamaru ("They changed the way you create pages... I'm going to have to mess with this for a min."), were you referring to how if you click the add page button in the top right corner it defaults to classic editor (vs if you click on a red link to create a page it gives you the visual editor?). If you were, I remember seeing this discussed on the forums with it being changeable.
Testing if it'll let me reply yet. It's been giving me errors...
Okay, sorry for the delayed response. Each time I tried to reply it woud give me an error message. But yes, basically I'm talking about the top right button. It's not giving me the option to use the classic editor, it just forces me into the visual editor. I did a look through the Wiki Features in the Admin dashboard, but I couldn't see a setting to change that. I may have to come over to the Baccano Wiki and see how it works over there. :p
The interesting thing is that the modernization of Headers/Top Nav, etc. (or one of the technical updates around that time) made it so that creating a new page via the top-right icon would have users default to the classic editor instead of the visual editor, which is evidently not what happened to you at all. I think I remember quite a few people complaining and asking how they could switch it back...
The Baccano! wiki's top-right "create a page" button definitely defaulted to the visual editor before the June 12th rollout.
If you go to Special:Preferences you can change which editor is default for you, though it affects edits and not just what defaults for creating a new page.
Ah...yep. Rooted around in the technical updates archive - one week after the rollout of the new headers, the June 19th list of updates included one making it so that "add a new page" would respect a user's editor preferences. Definitely a response to the multiple users in the forums upset with the button defaulting to classic.
I just gave it a shot, but it's still defaulting to the classic editor despite me setting it to the visual editor. OTL
Fortunately, it's not the worst thing in the world, it'll just mean an extra step whenever I want to create a page. It's unfortunate that I can't adjust this though, the classic editor is something of a nuisance when you're first creating a page. Particularly when it comes to templates.
Thanks for responding though! Haha I'll just take my extra step until Fandom decides to make it an option or not.